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    Posted: Jul/12/2010 at 9:32pm
It's 2 days later and the officials at TS@I still don't have the finishing order correct!
Here is what they wrote
 
first classic stock finisher was Harry Michaelian in his 1975 Dodge Dart with Curtis Drye next in his Chevelle. P 9-10 went to classic stock drivers Mike Colato, Jr and Ken Michaelian, both down two laps. The 35-lap race took 12-minutes and had one caution for a lap 16 spinner.
 
What is so bad is Lester didn't have a clue either! They only had 4 cars to keep track of and they failed in doing that.
The photo sure looks like Mike and not Harry!
Did they change something that no body knows about
 
Nice try Crow38, they only guy to give himself a black eyeOuch
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  Quote BillColeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/12/2010 at 10:58pm
first of all chill out, the track is closed on Mondays. Things will be corrected, he had to have some sort of clue since after the race he said 71 was the winner and made him stay on the track and then lugnutz never even walked over to talk to him
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  Quote nascarfan1987 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 9:20am
second, the timing loops on the third mile were all jacked up from the big boys with the pro series...they were having loop issues all day.  it will all get sorted out.  
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  Quote Bobby_Dezarov Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 9:37am
I know that the Top 5 should be 12-Mahan, 27-Williams, 17-ME, 71- Colato, 5-Cromsigt.  Anything else is a who knows.  Lester and Mike both called me yesterday and confirmed to me that I indeed finished 3rd and the Top 3 was correct.  I know for a fact that Colato was the next car on the lead lap behind me,  and the Classic Stock run down should be 71, 40, 43, 96, as Tommy was the only classic stock that I lapped, dunno about Ben and Jeff.  Hope this helps.

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  Quote Crow38 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 11:12am
Race Dude I am not quite sure I follow all your genius reasoning. How can a guy who is trying to help other racers and the racetrack provide a place to race such a bad guy. How do I get a black eye? What have you done recently for your fellow racers? What have you done to promote the track? What we have accomplished positive is accomodate several cars and drivers that wouldnt have run other wise. We have increased the pay for the Classic Stocks and Super Stocks that have run the Open. In addition the Classic Stocks have only had 4 cars make every race so the Open Cars have equaled or exceeded their car count. Can you tell me Einstein how any of this has benefited me?Ouch
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  Quote Bobby_Dezarov Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 1:10pm
And BTW, Curtis in the 99 is an Open car, not a Classic Stock for the last 2 races.

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  Quote MIKE71 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 6:44pm
pretty sure the classic stock running order was 71,43,40,96....and Lugnutz did talk to me on the track.
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  Quote Race Dude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 7:16pm
Mike you are correct on the order for the classic's
however,
"Bobby" anybody on a head set Saturday herd Lester ask the track stewarts to have you leave the track as you were not the 3rd place car as Lester assest a penalty against you for not giving back a position. Lester was telling you for 3 laps to give it back or he would take it back after the race in which it appeared he did by having you leave the track.
Now if Lester later did not do what he said he was going to do, shame on him, that just supports some of the reasons cars are not coming back.
 
And for Crow38, you started this turd hunt to run your illegal car and you havn't made a lap in your own car yet! Maybe you should try a downhill sport, like soap box racing so all you have to do is have someone push you off, which you are getting use to every week! (Being pushed)
 
And other then the #12 car last week, what other car is not a regular at TS@I ?
If you actually had you 29 other buddies that promised they would be out, this would be the best division on the track, even with out one of your toboggins in the way.
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  Quote superman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 9:08pm
last time i checked, the 27 truck is not a regular...it would not be racing without that class...regardless of who is driving...that is a different truck...and the 17 car wouldnt be either...bobby wasnt going to race it with the super stocks...and cromsight has brought 2 different cars out to run as well...

check this one out race moron...if you take the open comp cars away, regardless of where they came from, then u have 4 classic stocks...5 if u count curtis....THATS IT...the track will NEVER run a class with just 4 or 5 cars, especially on the 3rd mile, especially a class where you can't build new cars, you have to go find them...so without ricks open whatever class, and the whopping 4 extra cars he brings, then u dont have classics either...stop your complaining or go somewhere else...the class hasn't hurt you yet...
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  Quote MIKE71 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 10:20pm
Originally posted by superman

, then u have 4 classic stocks...5 if u count curtis....THATS IT...the track will NEVER run a class with just 4 or 5 cars, especially on the 3rd mile, especially a class where you can't build new cars, you have to go find them...
 
 
Confused.....actually classics stocks are pretty much the only class out there you can still build you own car.
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  Quote Bobby_Dezarov Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 10:22pm
Originally posted by Race Dude

Mike you are correct on the order for the classic's
however,
"Bobby" anybody on a head set Saturday herd Lester ask the track stewarts to have you leave the track as you were not the 3rd place car as Lester assest a penalty against you for not giving back a position. Lester was telling you for 3 laps to give it back or he would take it back after the race in which it appeared he did by having you leave the track.
Now if Lester later did not do what he said he was going to do, shame on him, that just supports some of the reasons cars are not coming back.
 
And for Crow38, you started this turd hunt to run your illegal car and you havn't made a lap in your own car yet! Maybe you should try a downhill sport, like soap box racing so all you have to do is have someone push you off, which you are getting use to every week! (Being pushed)
 
And other then the #12 car last week, what other car is not a regular at TS@I ?
If you actually had you 29 other buddies that promised they would be out, this would be the best division on the track, even with out one of your toboggins in the way.

Not what was on the final results posted on the Tech bay saturday night, nor what Mike A told me, Nor what Lester told me on the phone Monday afternoon.  I was credited with third after they clarified the confusion in the tower.  They wanted me to give back a position to a car that was a lap down.  They caught their mistake in the tower by the end of the night and all is well.  I have a pic of the final lineup that was on the Tech bay Saturday night when we left if it will help you clarify.

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  Quote Race Dude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/13/2010 at 11:00pm
Well - you were told for the 2nd week in a row to get off the track, I wonder if they have a 3 strikes rule at TS@I, if they do, your going to the TS@I jail next race, seams that you want to race your way and not the rules set by the track. I garanteee that if you did what you did the last 2 weeks at a real well managed track, you wouldn't be back a 3rd week.
I'd like to see how many Super Stocks would come out on a night they are not scheduled to be there and then look at your car cound, your back to 6 8 cars.
 
Let it be known, I have not 1 issue with the open comp division, I do have an issue with running un-restricted cars with restricted cars, if that is the case the logic would say they should run the SLM with the LM & the Mini's with the legends, because none of those divisions have the car cound to sustain a full main event?
 
The classic cars are out there with 2 in the repar stage for Classic's and at least 2 for sale, plus the other 5 or so that just are not out for what ever reason.
 
Trying to race the same divisions at different traks in the same night is just poor scheduling for what ever division it affects.
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  Quote Bobby_Dezarov Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 7:18am
The first race was an incident that I had nothing to do with, and the track has apologized for it.  This weeks incident, they wanted me to give a spot back to a car that was 2 laps down.  When they went and reviewed the scoring for the race, they noticed their mistake and put me back to 3rd.  Like Nascarfan1987 said, the scoring loops were a mess all day, and the track had to fall back to scoring by hand, which it seems for the guys deeper in the field is STILL not correct yet.

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  Quote superman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 11:47am
Originally posted by Race Dude

 
Trying to race the same divisions at different traks in the same night is just poor scheduling for what ever division it affects.


thats as  much orange shows fault as it is irwindales...that phone works both ways...rick mcray is too stuck up in his ways to try and work with irwindale...difference is, TSI has the money to wait out the closure of OSS.  And we all know the city wants to shut that place down...its sad, but true...I wish the two tracks would get together and talk...but i dont think it will ever happen, from either end of the stick...
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  Quote Race Dude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 6:07pm
Bobby, look at the fan's side of the last 2 races, all they see is that the Green #17 was blacked flagged one week and then was penalized the very next week, over the air on the radio. So Joe race fan is saying, "Whay is the Green #17 being allowed to race" he dosen't follow the rules and has been booted 2x's. We all know what happens behind the scene's and changs are made to correct them, but Joe Fan ONLY see's what happened then and there's never anything posted on the web site to change that. So it come's down to you, your being watched, by fans, officials, racers, and they all are saying the same thing, we have had only 2 problems in this new disision and they both have the Green #17 in the middle. Your fault or not, no one cares.
All of us that have seen what you can do, know you can handle the wheel in any given situation, your a good driver, you have good equipment, it's time to back off a bit, let the dust clear and the Green #17 won't be in the middle of the issues. It's time to crack back the throttle a bit and let things go. I would like no more then to see the open class be something special, but it won;t be if this continues.
 
Superman - I happened to know that OSS published there racing schedule before TS@I, and the schedules could have been reviewed before they were finalized. OSS has 3 years after this year on the lease there, so they are not likley to go anywhere until then. TS@I won't have a conversation with OSS as they feel they are the only track in SoCal. That's to bad, because they coud make it work.
 
And no, I'm not an OSS guy, just someone that hates to see the demise of racing divisions and tracks.
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  Quote superman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by Race Dude

 
And no, I'm not an OSS guy, just someone that hates to see the demise of racing divisions and tracks.


I agree with this, but just because OSS gets their schedule printed first doesn't give them priority, and doesn't make it TSI's job to schedule around them.  Again, I firmly believe it is a two-way street.  Both tracks are at fault.  Unless you can prove OSS has tried to work with TSI, in which case, I would firmly place the fault solely with TSI.  But both tracks suffer from the lack of co-operation.
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  Quote Bobby_Dezarov Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 7:16pm
Originally posted by Race Dude

Bobby, look at the fan's side of the last 2 races, all they see is that the Green #17 was blacked flagged one week and then was penalized the very next week, over the air on the radio. So Joe race fan is saying, "Whay is the Green #17 being allowed to race" he dosen't follow the rules and has been booted 2x's. We all know what happens behind the scene's and changs are made to correct them, but Joe Fan ONLY see's what happened then and there's never anything posted on the web site to change that. So it come's down to you, your being watched, by fans, officials, racers, and they all are saying the same thing, we have had only 2 problems in this new disision and they both have the Green #17 in the middle. Your fault or not, no one cares.
All of us that have seen what you can do, know you can handle the wheel in any given situation, your a good driver, you have good equipment, it's time to back off a bit, let the dust clear and the Green #17 won't be in the middle of the issues. It's time to crack back the throttle a bit and let things go. I would like no more then to see the open class be something special, but it won;t be if this continues.


I cannot agree with you more, the bugs will be worked out.  I won't be there the next Open race, but I will be back on 8-28.

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  Quote FAN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/15/2010 at 9:18am
Originally posted by superman

Originally posted by Race Dude

 
Trying to race the same divisions at different traks in the same night is just poor scheduling for what ever division it affects.


thats as  much orange shows fault as it is irwindales...that phone works both ways...rick mcray is too stuck up in his ways to try and work with irwindale...difference is, TSI has the money to wait out the closure of OSS.  And we all know the city wants to shut that place down...its sad, but true...I wish the two tracks would get together and talk...but i dont think it will ever happen, from either end of the stick...
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  Quote FAN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/15/2010 at 9:20am
Rick talked to Defazio and was told to F**k off........
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In regards to what!!!Ouch
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  Quote Race Dude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/15/2010 at 5:42pm
Superman
Just for info, I actually ran into Rick MCray a couples of weeks ago and asked the question about the schedules, his answer, OSS posted there schedule 1st, he has tried numerious times to talk to Bob & Lester and they won't talk to him, because they beleive there is only 1 race track in SoCal and it's TS@I.
That's too bad because I can see where both tracks could work together and have a few cross over races at each facility would be real good for both tracks and the race teams.
 
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That was a "quote" word for word.
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  Quote MIKE71 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/18/2010 at 3:13pm
So it's been over a week the points have been posted and the checks have been cut.... site is still showing the wrong info......not that it really matters but has anyone heard of the correct finishing order for the race??
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  Quote Crow38 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/18/2010 at 3:28pm
Mike,
YOU WON!!!!!!!! LOL
 
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  Quote MIKE71 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/18/2010 at 3:31pm
Yea.....thanks dude....actually right after I posted I read my email from Sheri at the track.....they should be fixing and updating everything soon!
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Mike, 

Just like I told you last week at the track, to take a car that got bent at the previous race and fix it, and then win is EXCELLENT!  Congrats again!

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  Quote MIKE71 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/18/2010 at 10:05pm
Thanks buddy.....gotta thank my guys at central valley auto body and my crew chief mike....they all worked real hard to get us in shape to even make that race ...it was def pretty cool for it all to come together like that and win too!!
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